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BANNED in UK! Geller & Spencer- Islamization vs the Civilized Man
July 1, 2013, 5:21 pm
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In light of the recent disinformation-war of LIES against Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer that resulted in their being BANNED from entering the UK,  I took a look back at three speeches given by Geller, Spencer, Tommy Robinson and Kevin Carroll on September 11, 2012. These are excerpted speeches from SION’s “Stop Islamization of Nations” Conference. A sobering look at warnings not heeded. Sadly, we are on a fast-track to Islamization…

” We are Living in a NEW Dark-Age of Tyranny, Authoritarianism and ISLAMIC Law” (Robert Spencer)

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Part 1 – Pamela Geller excerpted opening remarks

Pamela Geller:

9-11 was the opening salvo on the Global Jihad on the West, a day of mourning our War Dead. We are the Gate-Keepers. History is not being taught. Freedom is a process. A war raging in the information Battle-Space. Working at an extreme disadvantage because of the media. The media is at war with the people. Siding with the very people who will eventually be their executioners. You must call out the media on their deceptions and lies. CHALLENGE.

The leadership of the fierce and only effective counter-jihadist movement in the UK- EDL . There are smears , defamation, lies and destruction (the media) They ( EDL)  are trying to protect their home. This is their ‘crime’ . You have to stand up for them, because what is being done to them will be done to you

Robert Spencer:

Throwing away the basic principles that under-lay our society, bringing upon themselves a New Dark Age. Islamic Law is fundamentally opposed to ALL of the freedoms that the English formulated and the American Founding Fathers brought to this  continent. To hear these things happening in England, is especially chilling…

Part 2-Tommy Robinson of the English Defence League. These excerpts begin with Pamela Geller’s  intro for Robinson who describes how the EDL is taking the fight to the streets. Back to the enemy.

Pamela Geller remembers the EDL from its formation.

May-June 2009. Protests in UK against British returning soldiers. Taunted, called Baby-killer. EDL was born out of these egregious acts. UK campaign is far more vicious… smeared….defamation, racism, bigotry…

Tommy Robinson:

Three years ago…Police facilitated….knew they were going to assault the returning soldiers. First Tommy tried to be anonymous. false name. covered face. They exposed him a year later. It’s become a blessing. Now he can say whatever needs to be said and people are following.

They were called Racists. Nazis. Death threats against EDL by Muslims. Police  said they couldn’t protect the them. Told him to take his family and leave London. Then he stopped hiding. He’s not running anymore from Islam’s fear and intimidation. His is NOT a scared face.

EDL does nothing because of hate. They do it for love. Love for our children’s future. Democracy. Our duty

Muti-culturalism works. It’s ISLAM that doesn’t work. Islam doesn’t integrate. We need to pin-point the exact problem which is Islamic Ideology. Their blue-print is inevitable. It’s coming to a town near you.

We can’t keep running. It has to be stopped. I’m no angel, but I’m doing (this) for the right reasons. Standing up for what is right.

Part 3: KEVIN Carroll, co-founder of the English Defence League and cousin to Tommy Robinson, spoke more about the beginnings of the EDL and elaborated on what motivates them…what should motivate us all as we fight for Democracy and against Islamization.

Kevin Carroll:

British Police officers’ Number One priority about terrorism is to dismantle the English Defence League. Incredible pressure. Trumped up charges. Try to demonize us. Call us cowards. Nazis. Media is corrupt. Biggest culprits. Cover-up. Spike stories.

EDL has a political wing called British Freedom Party. One of the biggest stories in the last 3o years, was not in the press once. A main stream political party being formed. Press doesn’t want public to know there is a political party they can vote for.

We are NOT racists. We’re just No Longer Silent. Attacks constant on Christianity and Judaism. It’s now illegal to wear the Sign of the Cross at work. If you refuse to remove it you can be arrested. The Media. Leftist. Yellow. Apologists.

The EDL is made up of Patriots. To be a Patriot is not to be a racist. We need strong, patriotic leaders who love their country. Love their people. Love their Nation. Democracy. Freedom of Speech.

Obama. Cameron were traitors. Sold out their country.

Kevin read a quote from Winston Churchill:

” If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.”

Kevin ended with, “I’d rather die on my feet, than live on my knees.”

TEN MONTHS LATER: June 28, 2013. Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer were BANNED from entering the UK.  A BAN on Freedom. A Ban on Free Speech. Pamela has more to say on the ban in this video:

Tommy can be seen below holding the flowers that Pamela and Robert had ordered for the occasion, a memorial walk in honor of murdered British soldier and drummer, Lee Rigby.

Pamela stressed, Despite all the disinformation in the media, we were not marching or protesting. We were going to the UK to lay flowers at the site of the jihad beheading of drummer Lee Rigby. That is all.”

Go here  for more >>

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And watch Tommy and Kevin as they are harassed….set-up by two Marxist stooges, resulting in Tommy and Kevin’s arrest…. not the arrest of the tools who assaulted them.

Lots more to read in the comments section posted at Atlas Shrugs. Updated regarding  these two guys were attacked by the red commies Purssell and Cole just seconds before the female police officer told T&K they were being arrested.

EDL leaders Tommy Robinson and Kevin Carroll are arrested while trying to march through Whitechapel, London

Bottom Line: We Must FIGHT BACK with the TRUTH!

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For more useful materials in the information battle, Go here..

July 1, 2013: There’s MORE. An UPDATE from Pamela Geller on their CHALLENGE. Sign the Petition!

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A claim by Islamic scholars as well as jihadists is that no one can produce something as beautiful as the Quran in the way the words are arranged and thus it can only be of God. This claim should be answered.
First, all someone has to do is examine some of the great works of literature to fine much written beauty. Such as the Greek epic poet Homer with his Iliad and Odyssey and then Virgil who produced the Aeneid has beauty. Even one of the non-Bible books in the Apocrypha called The Song of Three Children is also very beautiful. Thus just because someone sees a work that is written in great beauty doesn’t mean it’s inspired by God.
Second, the scholar Edward Gibbon wrote after an examination of the Quran that it is an “incoherent jumble of fable and precept and declamation which seldom excites a sentiment or an idea, sometimes craws in the dust and is sometimes lost in the clouds…” The writer Thomas Carlyle wrote the Quran is “A wearisome jumble, crude, incondite [with] endless iterations [and] longwindedness…” Likewise, the philosopher David Hume was NOT favorably impressed after reading the Quran.
[Source of the three scholars mentioned – Secrets of The Koran: Revealing Insight Into Islam’s Holy Book .56,66, by Don Richardson]

Furthermore, the following should be taken into consideration.

Of course the Muslim who reads the Quran will see great beauty in the way the words are arranged. This is, in part, because of the power of suggestion after being told so many times that the Quran is so beautifully written. That’s an old brainwashing method, repeating and being told that same thing again and again. Since he or she is always being told the same lie will end up believing that lie. In addition to that, the Imams try to discourage their people from reading other works, such as the Bible, so then they don’t have much or anything to compare or contrast the Quran with. Of course there are some Muslim’s that do read other works, but they are exceptions and they read other things only after they were already brainwashed by the Imams. In short, the Muslims can’t read the Quran objectively because their Imams have programmed them to have a strong bias towards it.

Comment by Walter Sieruk

The Greek philosopher Plato is one of the contributors to Western Civilization. He may shed some light into the subject of those people who are shackled in the chains and darkness of Islamic thought. In Plato’s REPUBLIC he gave an allegory of a cave where “the condition of men living in a sort of cavernous chamber…Here they have been from childhood, chained by leg and also by the neck, so that they cannot move and see only what is in front of them.” This can fit into what the Imams do in the mosques and how they brainwash the young people in the madrassa’s by always programming Islamic doctrine into their victims and not exposing them to other worldviews. Furthermore, even in Islamic tradition when Muslims have their newborn child the father whispers words of the Quran into the infants ear so that that Quran verses are the first thing the newborn person hears. This programming process takes place all their lives. These are some of the chains that keep them bound in a mosque [cave]. The chains do not let them reach out for dialectic reasoning and let them examine the evidence both for as well as against, or even question whether Muhammad was a true prophet of God or not, and if the Quran is a hoax or not. As the chains and darkness of the cave blinds and holds the prisoners back from reality, so Islamic propaganda holds back the cognition to reason with the question if Islam is true or not. They are forbidden from even thinking to question Islam. Furthermore, if a Muslim by some miracle wakes up to the truth about Islam, it would be like the man in Plato’s cave allegory who was released from his chains and taken outside to the real world. At first direct light would be painful and disorienting, it would take some time for him to understand what the truth is all about, he even might cling to the shadows and still for a time believe some of the illusions to be real. But he would finally come to know “what he had formerly seen was meaningless illusion.” And that was “what passed for wisdom in his former dewelling-place.”And that the other cave prisoners also needed to see the light [the truth] for he “was sorry for them.” and he would re-enter the cave just to rescue them. Nevertheless, the cave prisoners wouldn’t understand and “if they could lay hand on the man who was trying to set them free.” And if they could “they would kill him.” Likewise, when someone escapes from the shackles of Islam, those still in the darkness of this religion would not understand and if possible kill him for leaving Islam, and even more so if he were to try to enlighten them about the truth about Islam. For these people in Islam are chained to an empty imitation of truth and godliness.

Comment by Walter Sieruk

An important question: is the Quran the Word of God or is it a fabrication of a Man. Thus, is the Quran the truth or a fiction and a hoax? The jihadists use many verses from the Quran as the Main source of justification for their violence, mayhem and murders. There, the question is clearly given on pages 145 through 157 in THE ISLAMIC INVASION by Robert Morey in which he wrote a section on the Quran with its self-contradictions. Just two of the many he cited are the following “The Quran differs on whether a day is a thousand years or fifty thousand years in God’s sight’ and “Who was first to believe? Abraham or Moses [Sura 6:14 versus 7:143]? The above is inconsistent and illogical. Further, Morey wrote about “The fact that Judaism and Christianity broke up into different sects was used in the Quran to prove that they are not of God [Suras 30:20-32. 42:13, 14]. Yet Islam has broken up into many warring sects and therefore cannot be true if the Quran is right.” Moreover, Morey in his book shows many more contradictions and absurdities in the Quran, there are and how Muhammad incorporated extra Biblical and Jewish folklore along with pre-Islamic Arabian myth and parts of Zoroastrian and Hindu stories into the Quran. Furthermore, the Muslims claim that “the Quran is the direct, literal word of God unmodified in any way by the Prophet who uttered them at the bidding of God.” Nevertheless, in the book UNVEILING ISLAM by Ergun Mehmet and Eethi Caner has shown that the Quran was modified in the following account on pages 45. “Muhammad felt the need to improve on the words of Allah, since he changed Allah’s wisdom for his own on several occasions. A hadith tells of the nonchalant emendations of Muhammad:’ On a number of occasions he [a scribe] had, with the Prophet’s consent changed the closing words of verses. For example, when the prophet had said ‘God is mighty and wise ‘ Adbollah b. Abi Sarh suggested writing down ‘Knowing and wise’ and the Prophet answered that there was no objection. Having observed a succession of changes of this type, Adbollah renounced Islam on the grounds that revelations, if from God could not be changed at the prompting of a scribe such as himself. After his apostasy he went to Mecca and joined the Qorayshites.’ Other writers reveal that later Muhammad and his people did go war with the Qorayshites and he personally killed Abdollah. Obviously Abdollah knew too much and Muhammad wanted Abdollah’s knowledge to die with him.” In conclusion, the Quran is not only a fiction, it’s also a hoax.

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