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NY Law School Symposium “Sharia in America” Mohammad Fadel (Day 2)
September 5, 2011, 7:41 pm
Filed under: Islam and mosques

Mohammad Fadel was a last minute replacement for Sherman A. Jackson of the University Michigan School of Law. Jackson’s area of specialization is Islamic Law and Theology.

Professor Fadel specializes in “Islamic Constitutional & “Interaction” Theory”. He flew in from Canada for the symposium on short notice.

The current news-of-the-day that had the symposium all a twitter was the release of a web site , “FEAR INC” .

This was Professor Fadel’s first of only a few slides and he stressed how important this new site is in fighting Islamophobia.

Professor Fadel spoke for about 40 minutes, followed by about 20 minutes of Q and A.

Professor Sadiq Reza was feeling particularly playful when introducing Professor Fadel. (Apparently they’re good friends.

Reza then moved on to the more serious topic of Sharia. While reviewing my written notes, I was reminded of how often I felt Fadel  jump back and forth; flirting with “contradictions of theory” (which will be more apparent in the audio)

1. Islamic Law is compelling; positive

2. Is Islamic Law non-coercive

3. Certain acts are obligatory . Some incur no sin. Some incur no blame

4. Doesn’t direct how to behave.

5. Moral reasoning deals with sin.

6. Jurisdictional rules do not bind those who do not recognize it.

7. Jurists in Islamic States are bound by these rules (Figq)

8. Doesn’t like the labels; religious/secular when referring to Sharia Law

9. Positive vs man-made law 

More statements by Professor Fadel, ” Muslims have been a minority since Islam came on this earth. Started with a Minority of One: Mohammed”

Muslims suffered persecution so they went to Medina. Wrote a Charter. Became a State

Our Law-Not God’s Law. ( found this a bit confusing) Avoid entangling God in undertakings.

But this was quite clear.  Cannot sign Treaties that humiliate a Muslim 

Democracy is not about a Communal Tomorrow (like Islam is)

The Reformist Movement and Fear. It’s complicated. Muslims are Trans-National (The Umma). Go beyond borders. Tensions as to Foreign Policy. Muslims in America no longer feel free to dissent.

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 AUDIO Of Mohammad Fadel’s speech (with a few slides) is approx 40 minutes

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Second AUDIO is the Q and A (20 minutes) and a few brief written notes

1. Mentioning advocating of Sharia in U.K. Fadel feels they are marginal

 2. A young woman asked about the anti- Sharia movement and fear of Islam. She wonders where are they getting this?

3. Young man thanks Fadel for mentioning Fear Inc today. Asks how to counter this fear. To explain to friends and family this disinformation about Sharia Law

4. Fadel says you can say I don’t know how Muslims have reconciled their faith and our Constitution, but seems they’ve done a good job of it.

5. To a woman who asked about Jewish Law. He gave an example. No one , Muslim or Jew,  would allow a State Law to say they must murder.

6. A big LEFTY in the audience, instead of asking a question, did his own little ‘commercial’ for his group, Jews Against Islamaphobia. Used that moment to make reference to David Yerushalmi and Park 51.

7. An Asian woman asked, “Can Muslims (as a minority) speak up forcefully against Foreign Policy Issues.”

8. Fadel mentioned the utter silence of the Civil Rights (Humanitarian Rights) groups on the Left. The Constitution shouldn’t stop at the Nation’s boundaries. Complicated when the U.S. is waging war over seas. Killing over-seas with impunity.

(The Audio of Q and A)

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Slideshow of the few slides:

Vodpod videos no longer available.

The symposium continues in Part 6 with Family Law Professor, Professor Asifa Quraishi  AND please, follow link below to a fabulous article on the symposium written by Alyssa Lappen “Sharia Lobby Shifts into Fifth Gear” 

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Thanks so much for posting this video. It’s amazing to hear the nuts and bolts of sharia discussed, especially by someone who believes it is benign and wants to see it instituted in the US and Canada.

Some of what he said were absolutely outrageous — such as stating the idea that we should “trust” sharia law will be in accord with US Constitutional law, and then admitting that sharia would provide “almost 90% of gender equality” to female Muslim citizens. He also slipped in the notion that Muslims would want some kind of exception to the Constitution to allow courts to impose sharia rulings on Muslims because Islamic religious/moral law insists on that. — IOW, if someone was a Muslim they would not be able to opt out of a sharia decision.

What really blew my mind the most was the idea that any contract made between Muslims and non-Muslims can be voided if the Muslim decides that it is somehow “humiliating” to the Muslim. Of course the notion that Muslims are bound to obey treaties is mute when you consider the complete violation of the Oslo Accords by the Palestinians.

Hope that you will share these extraordinary videos with JihadWatch.

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